She was even the first woman he ever proposed to. They just show it differently. Sarah, who works with children in a conservative German town, is one of them, too. "He just always masturbated. Sean Penn was eager to complete his 60-day sentence without incident in 1987 when a guard approached him with a message from Richard Ramirez . It didnt really creep me out much, I wouldnt have visited him or anything but all it from a FAR distance was cool. We shared a lot of things, and when we were together, it was as if nothing else around us really existed. Any cookies that may not be particularly necessary for the website to function and is used specifically to collect user personal data via analytics, ads, other embedded contents are termed as non-necessary cookies. Necessary cookies are absolutely essential for the website to function properly. I have a friend who sells what's known as murderabilia, various things he's collected and traded from & with killers he's corresponded with over time, he makes a minor living doing that. I'll answer more questions in the morning. NIGHT Stalker Richard Ramirez used to compulsively masturbate in front of guards and visitors while behind bars for a series of gruesome murders in California. Doreen Lioy entering San Quentin State Prison to be with Richard Ramirez. "He would sometimes get his privilege level back up to where he could have visits but they were always behind the glass.". Richard Ramirez was still a predator from behind bars and in this episode we look at some creepy prison letters from the case of The Night Stalker Richard Ra. She is known for her heavy guitar playing style and dramatic, authoritative vocals.[2]. Its for research, right? "At the time it didn't really register with us because his mannerisms were so awkward anyway.". I am a bit disappointed that this has turned into such a circle jerk in some parts of the thread. They dont know him the way I do.. Just pen pals really, eventually I just stopped writing him cause it got boring. Eva O is a 61 year old American Singer born on 11th January, 1961 in Las Vegas, Nevada. We are very gateful to see the film enjoy a very rewarding response and so far won the Golden Dragen at Krakow Film Festival and the Grand Prix an Animafest Zagreb. Ultimately, Ramirez was never executed but instead died of complications from B-cell lymphoma in 2013. I don't ignore these reports, I look at each one carefully and read through every comment again to make sure the general 'mood' hasn't gone to a weird place. "Yeah he wasn't convicted of that but they were part of his case. Directed by Shoko Hara Produced byStefan Michel / Studio Seufz, Music: Chiara Strickland Sound Design: Marc Fragstein Foley Artist: Luis Schffend, Animation:Eliott Deshusses,Valentin Kemmner,Matisse Gonzalez,Mona Keil,Nora Marie Back,Sofiia Melnyk, REACH US: XOXO@STUDIOSEUFZ.COMJOB / INTERNSHIP: APPLICATION@STUDIOSEUFZ.COM, OSTENDSTRASSE 106 70188 STUTTGART, GERMANY #SIGH #AMORE, Designed by Elegant Themes | Powered by WordPress. Even more disturbing, many of his crimes included a Satanic element such as carving pentagrams into his victims bodies. And even though she was not the only woman who sent Ramirez love letters, she was by far the most persistent. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Deathrock legend Eva O. is one of them. Eventually, Eva got back together with Rozz and moved to San Francisco with him. Thomas Glen Lundgren, 13, who was brutalized by twice-paroled sex offender and violent child molester Bill Bonin and his accomplice Vernon Butts. "Interview with 'Just a Guy' director Shoko Hara", All the Love All the Hate (Part One: All the Love), All the Love All the Hate (Part Two: All the Hate), https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Eva_O&oldid=1129289570, Short description is different from Wikidata, Pages using infobox musical artist with associated acts, Official website different in Wikidata and Wikipedia, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, This page was last edited on 24 December 2022, at 14:43. Height, weight, and shoe size: 6ft 1, 180 pounds, and shoe size 12 Hometown: Texas, USA Marital Status: Single Family members: 5 Cars: Lamborghini in the SQ parking lot ADVERTISEMENT Most treasured possession: My D**k Woman or Man: Me Childhood hero: Jack the Ripper William Harder, who visited Ramirez twice in prison, says he even masturbated in front of him during a visit and it became such a problem he was kept in solitary confinement for most of his prison life. Richard Ramirezs wife allegedly separated from her husband before he died in 2013. Im sure he still has none, he really believes in what hes doing, and will remain true to his beliefs until the end. Press J to jump to the feed. They described their music as "a strange mixture of metallic death rock and punk." No attraction to any of them. Information and news about serial killers. "Because of that they put him in the most controlled environment in San Quentin which is called the adjustment center he had no visits, no telephone access, no privileges. Although Lioy was overjoyed, the news of her wedding shocked the world. He had female fans that would watch his trial and received countless love letters and marriage proposals in prison. Some of the crimes he committed against children - including the kidnap of a six-year-old girl Anastasia Hronas, who miraculously survived, and told her harrowing story on the new docu-series Night Stalker - The Hunt For A Serial Killer - were not prosecuted because investigators did not want to put the child victims through a trial. What about damaged people attracts other damaged people. However Id love to see the psychology on that. She started a local, all-girl punk band in Long Beach known as the Speed Queens, and played with them from 1980 to 1982. Some people explain the phenomenon as these women being attracted to dangerous men posing no danger to them. I was so happy. 679215 Registered office: 1 London Bridge Street, London, SE1 9GF. That night, I waited patiently in front of my television, and he did what I asked him! I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Others argue that Ramirezs health problems led to the couples separation. While she often spoke of his innocence, she rarely gave any real answers as to why she was with him. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. I would love to understand and study why women find these scumbags attractive. I usually hear of serial killers luring or baiting victims first, this guy would just appear in your house while you were sleeping. "If you ever read his correspondence he was not a good letter writer. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Lioy also became his most ardent defender in the public eye, sometimes even praising his character in interviews. For more information, please see our Richard Ramirez as an adolescent. Before coming to see him, I asked him for a favor, since I saw him every night on TV. I agree with you. Such women are ultimately as insecure, narcissistic, pathetic and low in empathy as the serial killers they worship. Love it or hate it, and ask any questions you like. Relatives disowned her, and journalists couldnt understand why she had upended her life to be with Ramirez. I'm struggling to decide how I feel about this (not that it really matters). He talks about cats a lot. I can answer a few questions about my experience with writing him as well. Ramirez attacked both men and women, and the young and the old. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns. Jennie Vincow, a 79-year old resident of Glassell Park, was found brutally stabbed to death. Richard Ramirez is under renewed scrutiny thanks to Netflix documentary series: Night Stalker. We use cookies on our website to give you the most relevant experience by remembering your preferences and repeat visits. The number of women that were in love this guy AFTER he was caught is astounding. It has been repeatedly turned down for distribution in the United States due to its subject matter. Cookie Notice You can't whitewash it, Ramirez was not a nice person. Richard was a great source of inspiration. Eva Ortiz (born January 11, 1961), better known as Eva O, is a music artist most notable for her previous works in Christian Death and a band she formed with her then-husband Rozz Williams called Shadow Project. i was wondering cause like he was a sociopath and stuff. [1] In 1994, she began working on her second solo album, which she was originally going to call Angels Fall for a Demon's Kiss, but after studying more about the classic hierarchy of angels on both sides of the good-vs-evil spectrum, she ended up becoming a Christian and rewriting the entire record and renaming it Demons Fall for an Angel's Kiss. We were both big fans of true crime magazines, and it made me angry to see that there were no artcles about him illustrated with pictures of his crime scenes. For more general true crime content, follow @bluudstainbarbie I enjoyed reading them and I also enjoyed reading your thoughts and opinions on this, (even if I don't agree with you) thank you for taking the time to contribute to this AMA. You also have the option to opt-out of these cookies. "He loved his image as the Night Stalker no question about it he had a hefty amount of female admirers and he knew he had notoriety behind his name and he liked that. He wanted me to be happy and if while talking about crimes, I told him that I dreamed to commit violent acts, he was quick to remind me of his situation to dissuade me. In one letter from Harder's collection, shared with The Sun, the killer writes to a female groupie and goes from asking mundane questions about her favorite color - to sexually explicit stories from his past. Out of these cookies, the cookies that are categorized as necessary are stored on your browser as they are essential for the working of basic functionalities of the website. Fortunately, the LAPDs new fingerprint database and a bit of luck saw the Night Stalker captured. Despite the grisly evidence that had convicted Ramirez, Lioy wholeheartedly believed that he was innocent. I busted a gut when he asked in one letter: "do you like to stay at home or go out? [3] Ramirez committed several murders in San Francisco and stood trial there. I realize some of you think what I do is disgusting, and that's okay. In one letter to a crazed female fan, he brags how he gets 50 letters a week, creepily asks at what age her breasts developed and claims he lost his virginity aged nine. Death always comes with the territory. But before she met Ramirez, Lioy had lived a relatively normal life making her decision all the more baffling. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. She said, Itd be hard for me to understand if my best friend came to me and said, You know, this guy Timothy McVeigh, who just got convicted? If you dont mind me asking. Calling it a night, folks. " What attracted me to Richard was that I felt that his soul was very close to mine. I'm back to answer more for a few hours. / Source 3. 1 / 5. How do you feel having created this relationship with him given who he is, u/Valleygawd? Highlight for me is; "Ever gone bowling? Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Doreen Lioy remained unconvinced of his guilt. Richard Ramirez killed at least 14 people, he raped and tortured at least two dozen more. I think hes a really great person. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. The Sun can also reveal a series of bizarre art work and sexually explicit prison letters by the serial killer who terrorized Los Angeles in the 80s before he was sentenced to death for 13 murders, five attempted and 11 sexual assaults. His other artwork shows sinister looking devils and characters holding knives. In the May I went with my wife and a girlfriend of ours and Ramirez asked me to stand against the wall, probably so he could get a better look at the girls, and I saw him pull the tissue out of his pants pocket. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. One time, Harder said Ramirez lied to him about the name of his dog claiming it was called King, when it was actually called Princess. The other 2 women are friends. Through their perspective we revisit exchanged letters and emotions that are as obsessive as they are hauntingly familiar. I value all of your opinions, and I do want to hear them. A conversation with Richard Ramirez behind bars. For a long time, I was his only visitor. Born on February 29, 1960, Ramirez was raised in El Paso, Texas. He's apparently handsome and woman love notorious bad guys for some reason . "The Sun", "Sun", "Sun Online" are registered trademarks or trade names of News Group Newspapers Limited. Right? Authorities already had his mugshots from his previous arrests, and one of his surviving victims had provided police with a detailed description. I personally don't have any problems with folks who are known as "serial killer groupies" or whatever. One of them was Eva O, whom he really had strong feelings for and was heartbroken when she left him. When we met, only his family had the right to come and see him. Why is that a thing? Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Though little is known about her upbringing, it was probably quite different from the tumultuous early life of her future husband. Eva O Talks.Ramirez, Iceman . Harder described Ramirez as having a "very dark sense of humor" and loving his image as the Satanic Night Stalker. richardramirez-thenightstalker: Eva O, the Diva of the Death-Rock and Gothic scene of Los Angeles in the 80s, Testimony about her Relationship with The Night Stalker, Richard Ramirez. Harder, who visited Ramirez twice in 2005, described the murderer as an awkward character who didn't really know how to interact with people. Ive never made any secret to him that I wanted five or six children. These women have no empathy for his victims, and probably not any for other people either. A lot of well heeled businessman collect those items. I actually stopped writing him just cause it got boring. William Harder, who visited Ramirez twice in prison, says he even masturbated in front of him during a visit and it became such a problem he was kept in solitary confinement for most of his prison life. Harder figured out he had lied after speaking to his wife Doreen, who married him in prison. They just honestly believe that they are special enough to 'fix' these killers or that they are special enough to not be targeted by them. Out of boredom, she and Rozz started another band known as Shadow Project; they released two albums in the 1990s with that band. He was pretty obsessed with her, wanted to marry her, wrote her emo sad boi "Are you mad at me :'(" letters and would send her money from prison as some "Ima take care of you" gesture. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. As for movies I like thrillers and comedies. Although shes certainly not the only woman who has fallen for a serial killer, Lioy stands out among many of them because she simply refused to accept her husbands verdict. Her neck was cut so deep, she was almost decapitated. ", News Group Newspapers Limited in England No. Edit: Thanks for all the great questions, guys. "I get about 50 letters a week - it takes five to 10 days for your mail to arrive. Anyway, they could not understand that he was smiling at the camera to please me, because he had found a real friend in me. Although Eva never considered herself to be an official member of Christian Death, her participation in that band and Shadow Project earned her the "queen of darkness" title.[4]. So what! Definitely wouldn't be sending photos of yourself or . Sarah, who works with children in a conservative German town, is one of them, too. "He just always masturbated. Harder shared several letters and pictures from Ramirez - but pointed out he never pays prisoners for items - or sells letters or artwork sent to him personally. As for Stamos, he remembered Lioy as a very lonely woman and later reflected on her choice to marry Ramirez: To be that lonely that this is the only man on the planet that she can find, I just thought, How horrible. This man is the personification of evil just a monster.. On their wedding day, Lioy bought a gold band for herself and a platinum one for Richard Ramirez since he had already explained to her that Satanists dont wear gold. He was reportedly abused by his father, and he sustained multiple head injuries as a child. So I sent him the thirty letters I had written so far, all at once. This group earned a following on L.A.'s deathrock scene of the early 1980s. Damnation/Salvation is a detailed chronicle of her involvement with the occult and Satanism climaxing with her encounter with Jesus. Deathrock legend Eva O. is one of them. Director Shoko Hara is one of them. Born on February 29, 1960, Ramirez was raised in El Paso, Texas. Even his visits were just bizarre - some of his mannerisms - you could tell he wasn't 100 percent.". Thats how we communicated before meeting for the first time.of course, newspapers and TV news said he smiled and waved to the camera because he was not remorseful. Just a Guy, our first foray into the animated documentary genre, started its highly successful festival run in 2020. "I just believe in him . He writes: "Thank you for your compliments how old is your sister? From 1984 until he was caught in 1985, Ramirez murdered at least 14 people across California. Information and news about serial killers. Ramirez famously held his hand up during the trial to reveal a pentagram on his hand - and shocking the courtroom. Then he made a request to the prosecution to grant me visit access. [1] About the same time, she met Rozz Williams, who was starting the band Christian Death. 21 serial killer quotes that will chill you to the bone, Brazils real-life Dexter, Pedro Rodrigues Filho. It's mine and I want to keep it. If this image is graphic, flair it NSFW, please. Etc etc. So heartbroken for anyone whose life ended at his sick hands. I have taken it upon myself to learn from this man, about his life, about his past, because I wanted to know how he went from being a normal little boy to a serial killer. In 2013, CNN reported that serial killer Richard Ramirez, also known as "the Night Stalker," had died of natural causes while on death row in California. He answered the thirty letters. I will continue to answer questions as they come in. "He has this chronic masturbation problem and was always masturbating when female officers would walk by. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. "He was extremely socially awkward because of his disposition and because he was kept so secluded," he said. Id have to go with GSK. Its unclear whether she ever reconciled with her loved ones and her whereabouts today remain unknown. I wanted to be there for him, to live things for him outside. ", He goes on to ask about her family and other mundane details, before adding, "At what age did your breasts develop? These cookies do not store any personal information. Produced by Johnny Indovina, the album was tamer and calmer in comparison to her previous rugged and wild material. On August 31, 1985, Ramirez was arrested after multiple witnesses recognized him on the street and beat him relentlessly until police arrived. "He never liked to talk about his case not with me anyway. Reddit's open forum for discussion of anything and everything about true crime, court cases, and the legal system. 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